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Thread: Guild GSR Acoustic Models and Production Numbers

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    Hi,
    In relation to the initial gsr release numbers I think Guild stuck to the 10/10 split for USA and Europe, I suspect with the last gsr models, the f30CE that more than 20 were produced, there are still a few for sale in the UK/Europe.
    I have a gsr f20 and gsr f30ce, the only f20 I could find was from Joes Island Music in Langley and had to ship it to Scotland.
    The custom star you are referring to I don't think is part of the gsr range, its called custom shop and the specifications are quite different, it seems more an upgraded f30 with different tuners and star fret markers, looks a bit wizard of oz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazmo View Post
    Ralf, that's the first I've ever heard of the "Custom Star" GSRs for Reno's. Do you have any pictures or information about what was customized about them? I'll bet that happened in 2014, towards the end of New Hartford, right? Otherwise I would've expected to hear about them.
    We actually have discussed them here multiple times, here is just one: http://www.letstalkguild.com/ltg/sho...ustom-Shop-F20

    The Custom Shop Custom Star models for Reno's in Fishers/IN were actually built mid 2013 already according to the certificates and you had discussed in some of the LTG threads about them as well! :-)

    The F-20 and F-30 models came with satin back and sides and satin neck.
    The F-47MC and F-47R came with all gloss back sides and neck.
    The wood was maybe of selected quality.
    There were many star inlays on the headstock, the neck and the bridge (not all had the same appointments however).
    5 models in 2 paint opitions = 10 versions. (links might disappear over time)

    CS F-20 NAT: https://reverb-res.cloudinary.com/im...lquierjxo7.jpg
    CS F-20 ATB: http://www.letstalkguild.com/ltg/sho...ustom-Shop-F20

    CS F-30R NAT: https://reverb.com/item/26280-guild-...p-star-2013-om
    CS F-30R ATB: https://reverb.com/item/263394-guild...r-ren-ferguson

    CS F-30RCE NAT: https://reverb.com/item/213399-guild...guitar-nautral
    CS F-30RCE ATB: https://reverb.com/item/139491-guild...r-ren-ferguson

    CS F-47MC NAT: http://www.guildguitars.org/guild-cu...-guitar-f47mc/
    CS F-47MC ATB: https://reverb.com/item/213520-guild...lectric-guitar

    CS F-47R NAT: https://reverb.com/item/6199093-guil...tford-made-004
    CS F-47R ATB: https://reverb.com/item/6198199-guil...-hartford-made

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    Cool.

    My memory ain't what it once was, Ralf. :) Thanks.
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    If you Google "Guild Custom Star Guitar" It will show an older Reverb ad for an F30 for reference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by txbumper57 View Post
    If you Google "Guild Custom Star Guitar" It will show an older Reverb ad for an F30 for reference.
    Yes, and if you look three posts up you will see all the links :-)
    Ralf

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    Quote Originally Posted by scotsmac View Post
    I suspect with the last gsr models, the f30CE that more than 20 were produced, there are still a few for sale in the UK/Europe....
    The custom star you are referring to I don't think is part of the gsr range, its called custom shop and the specifications are quite different, it seems more an upgraded f30 with different tuners and star fret markers, looks a bit wizard of oz.
    I don't think that more than 20 of any acoustic were made, it might be just that they didn't sell so well in Europe. And you are correct, I had only mentioned the "Custom Star" models due to the fact that they were special built to order guitars for one specific dealer which was not done otherwise in New Hartford. They were not GSR models.
    Ralf

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    This thread addresses the production numbers. Are there defined aspects of construction that make the GSR models substantially more valuable, do GSR owners find these models to have superior tonal characteristics? How can you identify that your Guild is a GSR Model?

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    Can't speak to any construction differences and leave that to greater minds than me (almost anyone would qualify). Tonal comparisons are always subjective and I try not to ever get into that debate (either you like it or you don't).

    I can answer (I think) the last part of your question. I have two (2) GSR guitars and if I remember right both of them clearly say GSR on the sound hole label.

    For me anyway, I bought them because they are really beautiful guitars and they were limited production which nearly always grabs my attention.
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    GSR models are limited runs and came with labels and certificates indicating they were GSR models.

    My recollection, which is certainly subject to correction, is that the GSR acoustic models were made on the same machines and to the same specs as regular production instruments. A key feature is that they allowed Guild to use wood that was unusual, scarce, hard to get or just "different". I would expect tonal differences compared to production instruments but would attribute that to different wood choices and not to building technique or bracing or some other "mechanical" variable. If you choose to pay more for a GSR model it is because you want the tone of that particular wood or the exclusivity of owning one of a fairly small number.
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    Frono summarized it nicely already, here is the official text from the old NH Guild webpage: "Guild Special Run Series guitars are distinctive limited-edition versions of some our most sought after and revered models. These exceptional instruments feature special and exotic wood selections and custom appointments not available on standard models, resulting in exciting new guitars that take the Guild legacy to new heights of elegant sound and performance. Released only a few times per year in small numbers, GSR guitars are exclusive and rare, ensuring that your instrument is not only finely crafted and very nearly one of a kind, but also a special piece of Guild history."
    And yes, they all had a different appointments from standard models, so it is relatively easy to tell when you see a GSR guitar, at least for somebody who knows the details. Easier on the acoustic models (headstock inlays, fretboard inlays,...) on the electric models you need to know the details of the models in comparison to previous models. The labels however tell in most cases.

    Ralf

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