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Stumbled onto this one as I was walking past a second-hand store this morning.

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It's a Silvertone with original case for only 90 bucks!!
Cindy had to drag me away! :stupid:

Joe
 

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OK, I gotta' ask.

When people talk about how MUCH better low end guitars are now, than they were in the 50s and 60s, and probably even the 70s, I am pretty sure the names like Kay and Silvertone are mentioned as examples of these sub par instruments. Why do people still covet them now ?
 

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OK, I gotta' ask.
When people talk about how MUCH better low end guitars are now, than they were in the 50s and 60s, and probably even the 70s, I am pretty sure the names like Kay and Silvertone are mentioned as examples of these sub par instruments. Why do people still covet them now ?

In my experience it's often because they never were sub par. IMO the prevailing narrative re. this stuff overlooks lots of things that cloud up the clarity lotsa folks seemingly desire. The single-story fallacy in action. I've played some terrific Kay & Harmony guitars. Others, though, were just terrible. Poor quality control (particularly in Kay's case). I can say the same about Gretsch actually. Valco & Danelectro instruments: pretty much all of 'em that haven't been mistreated are good. Some are genuinely great. My Supro Dual Tone (Valco) eats Gibson LP Specials of any era for breakfast. But nowadays, again in my experience, there are few if any genuinely rubbish guitars being made…quality control is better overall.

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OK, I gotta' ask.
When people talk about how MUCH better low end guitars are now, than they were in the 50s and 60s, and probably even the 70s, I am pretty sure the names like Kay and Silvertone are mentioned as examples of these sub par instruments. Why do people still covet them now ?
I don't think they're cited as "sub-par" , those two along with Harmony were actually pretty well-built although the acoustics may have had the so-called "cheese-slicer action".
Silvertone was actually Sears Roebucks' brand name which found its way onto instruments by Danelectro and Kay and Harmony and National (known for their dobros).
Silvertone electrics from the early '60's in particular were Danelectros that have quite a cult following among rock luminaries as diverse as Jimmy Page, George Harrison, Eric Clapton, Chris Isaak, and Beck.
From Wiki:
"Probably best known for their line of well-made yet inexpensive guitars, the brand became popular with novice musicians. Jerry Garcia, Rudy Sarzo, Gary Rossington, Chet Atkins, Bob Dylan, David Lindley, Garry Nutt, John Fogerty, Tom Fogerty, Joan Jett, Jack White, James Hetfield, James Cashman, Dave Grohl, Phil Keaggy, Mark Knopfler, Brad Paisley, Dr. SETI, Joe Walsh,[2] and countless others had a Silvertone for their first electric, bass, or acoustic guitar. The Canadian band Chad Allan and The Silvertones, which would go on to become The Guess Who, took its name from this line of instruments. Pete Townshend used them in live performance with The Who for the purpose of smashing them (after he'd played them.) "
The 12-string on "Stairway to Heaven" is a late '50's ("IIRC" about the vintage) Harmony.
I think the observation about how much better the current crop of acoustics is, is in comparison to the countless "no-name" models available at the time with things like particle board laminated and spray-painted tops and plastic bridges and tuning machines with a lifespan of about an hour.
Another thing was back then I don't think there was much middle-ground between a "toy" and a real instrument, but those names are the ones people remember, maybe because they were just good enough to be a cut above the "toys" but economical enough to be many people's first instrument, and so also have a lot of sentimental value for those folks.
Why do M20's have such a cult following? I think it has far less to do with the tenuous "Nick Drake connection" than the fact that it was created to be the "Economy M20".
There was a cash fountain of youth created by a baby boom being influenced by the Beatles/the Kingston Trio/ and AM radio in general and everybody in the music business wanted a piece of that action.
But not all those baby boomers' parents were willing to foot the bill for real professional grade instruments if they were willing to foot a bill at all.... it's why my folks bought me a classical and said "IF you learn how to play this then we'll consider an electric guitar"
 
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is the top of that guitar maple? alder? ash? it doesnt look like spruce or mahogany.

Joe, i say you can live without it.

if it were a 50s-60s silvertone electric with a single lipstick pickup, then id say snag it!
 

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I think it is a model H605. I found an H604 at a consignment store and brought it home at $40. All solid birch (probably same for H605). Sounds very good and I keep it in open D tuning. Strings end in bridge with no pins, brass saddle.

The one in your pic looks to be in good nick. Not sure if the tailpiece robs it of any sound, but mine has long sustain.

Compared to the First Act starters guitars of today, these were very good first guitars. Must explain why the fretboard on mine is worn down in the cowboy chord area.

My vote is for you to at least play it and report back!

Jim
 
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