Slot Head Guild

[GGJaguar]

What model is the slot head Guild to the left of DD? Some kind of custom Peregrine?

 

[Westerly Wood]

Is it a Guild or now that he is backing Godin?

 

[GGJaguar]

Is it a Guild or now that he is backing Godin?

The photo is from NAMM 2014. You can make out the peaked Guild logo on it.

 

[hansmoust]

What model is the slot head Guild to the left of DD? Some kind of custom Peregrine?

Looks like a Doyle Dykes Signature Nylon Cutaway Electric to me!

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
www.guitarsgalore.nl

 

[GGJaguar]

Oh, I didn't realize DD had 3 signature models! I thought it was just the 6 and 12-string maple cutaways.

 

[walrus]

That's a cool guitar!

walrus

 

[awagner]

It would be interesting to know how it compares to the Paloma.

 

[GuildFS4612CE]

What model is the slot head Guild to the left of DD? Some kind of custom Peregrine?

Looks like a Doyle Dykes Signature Nylon Cutaway Electric to me!

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
www.guitarsgalore.nl

This one.

Made from 'THE TREE'

So, no comparison to anything else.

 

[Bill Ashton]

Is it a Guild or a Kirk Sand build ? Seems he was using those for his nylon string work during our LTG times...not that we
saw him with one, but by his own admission...

 

[SFIV1967]

The DD-6NC model is still shown on the Guild archived webpage:

Doyle Dykes Signature Nylon Cutaway Electric | Guild Guitars

Inspired by instruments designed by Kirk Sand and crafted to exacting specifications, the guitar delivers a warm, round, rich and balanced nylon-string sound that will please the most discerning guitarist.

guildguitars.com

I almost believe that except the prototype which Doyle owns no second DD-6NC was ever made. I had compared the stock pictures with Doyle's guitar and there was a 100% match on wood grain on both sides. The DD-6NC has a nut width of 1.9″ (48.3 mm), Jane said the fretboard was way too wide for her hands.
The guitar was not made by Kirk Sands, but Kirk was a consultant to Guild in the construction. As far as I heared a Canadian luthier created the prototype for Guild, just can't remember the name right now, need to do some searching. But it might be the guitar was actually made in NH with the help of that unknown Canadian luthier. (an no, it was not Robert Godin...just joking...)
EDIT: For answer who the Canadian luthier was see my post #15 below!

The old specs above on the Guild webpage showed NC lacquer but the prototype was made using French Polish (Shellac)! Production never started in NH as that was 2014 when NH was shut down.

Doyle said about her:
"I’m very proud of the team who made it all possible especially Ren Ferguson, Tim Shaw and of course Kirk Sand. I’m also proud of the Fender CEO Larry Thomas as he was the one who encouraged me to bring my friends into ‘the Fender fold’ which is how Kirk Sand, LR Baggs and Richard Barberra got involved (Kirk introduced the pickups to us.). My input was simply to give them the ideas collected through the years that appeal most to finger-style guitarists and how to sound our best and play our best."









The quilted mahogany (not maple) was spectacular:



Ralf

 

[chazmo]

Oh, I didn't realize DD had 3 signature models! I thought it was just the 6 and 12-string maple cutaways.

Hey, GG. Yup, as Ralf said, I don't think these ever actually made it into production. Not sure about that.

Pretty cool though, eh? Still, his F-47-based 12-string was my favorite of his signature models. Those were quite exceptional and unlike anything else out there (Guild-wise).

 

[chazmo]

Is it a Guild or a Kirk Sand build ? Seems he was using those for his nylon string work during our LTG times...not that we
saw him with one, but by his own admission...

Hi Bill! I actually seem to recall that Doyle was working with Kirk Sand during the Guild years. I don't think there was any direction connection between Guild and Mr. Sand.

 

[kostask]

The DD-6NC model is still shown on the Guild archived webpage:

Doyle Dykes Signature Nylon Cutaway Electric | Guild Guitars

Inspired by instruments designed by Kirk Sand and crafted to exacting specifications, the guitar delivers a warm, round, rich and balanced nylon-string sound that will please the most discerning guitarist.

guildguitars.com

I almost believe that except the prototype which Doyle owns no second DD-6NC was ever made. I had compared the stock pictures with Doyle's guitar and there was a 100% match on wood grain on both sides. The DD-6NC has a nut width of 1.9″ (48.3 mm), Jane said the fretboard was way too wide for her hands.
The guitar was not made by Kirk Sands, but Kirk was a consultant to Guild in the construction. As far as I heared a Canadian luthier created the prototype for Guild, just can't remember the name right now, need to do some searching. But it might be the guitar was actually made in NH with the help of that unknown Canadian luthier. (an no, it was not Robert Godin...)

The old specs above on the Guild webpage showed NC lacquer but the prototype was made using French Polish (Shellac)! Production never started in NH as that was 2014 when NH was shut down.

Doyle said about her:
"I’m very proud of the team who made it all possible especially Ren Ferguson, Tim Shaw and of course Kirk Sand. I’m also proud of the Fender CEO Larry Thomas as he was the one who encouraged me to bring my friends into ‘the Fender fold’ which is how Kirk Sand, LR Baggs and Richard Barberra got involved (Kirk introduced the pickups to us.). My input was simply to give them the ideas collected through the years that appeal most to finger-style guitarists and how to sound our best and play our best."









The quilted mahogany (not maple) was spectacular:



Ralf

Robert Godin is not a luthier, and never has been. He started off as the sales manager (or sales guy) for Lasido/Guitabec (who used to manufacture Lys (slope shouldered dreads/Norman(square shouldered dreads, and Kamouraska (classical) guitars), which evolved into the Godin factory (making Art & Lutherie, Norman, Seagull, Simon & Patrick, Godin (electric), and La Patrie (classical guitars)). In the Lasido years, the designers/luthiers were Normand, Claude, and his brother, all in the Boucher family. After a number of changes, Robert Godin is running the show, but I don't know who is actually designing the guitars. The father, Normand Boucher, has passed on, and the two brothers, Claude and his brother, went on to form Boucher guitars. I think Claude has moved away from the guitar business more recently.

The "Canadian handbuilder" you refer to above is most likely Sergei DeJong, from the Ottawa area. He, and both his son and daughter are active in the handbuilt guitar realm. Sergei was noted as being really good at classical (i.e. nylon string) guitars, so given the time frame, and the guitar being nylon string would lead me to believe that he may have had a hand in the design of the Doyle Dykes nylon string guitar, even if it is just the prototype.

 

[GuildFS4612CE]

Robert has handed the reins over to his son...both were at NAMM the last pre pandemic show.

Which doesn't answer the question as to who actually built that prototype. I remember that Doyle told me...but that was almost 10 years ago,..

 

[SFIV1967]

Robert Godin is not a luthier, and never has been.

Thanks for clarifying that. I had added that comment more "for fun" as Doyle started using Godin models after FMIC sold Guild.

The "Canadian handbuilder" you refer to above is most likely Sergei DeJong, from the Ottawa area.

Good idea but it was not Sergei. It took me a while finding the info who helped building the DD-6NC!
It was Master Luthier Meaulnes Laberge who is originally from Quebec City, Canada. He graduated from Quebec's "ELAN - Ecole de lutherie". He has his own business "ML Lutherie" and is in Port Coquitlam, Canada (near Vancouver). He also works at Rufus Guitar Shop in Vancouver. Meaulnes Laberge's connection to Guild is that he was in charge of Guild research and development for much of the time it was in Tacoma! He together with Tim Shaw designed/built prototypes like that Fibersonixx OB1-A graphite X-braced D-40 Richie Havens. (S/N TI046003).


EDIT: Reading the Guild webpage sometimes helps!



Ralf

 

[kostask]

Thanks for clarifying that. I had added that comment more "for fun" as Doyle started using Godin models after FMIC sold Guild.


Good idea but it was not Sergei. It took me a while finding the info who helped building the DD-6NC!
It was Master Luthier Meaulnes Laberge who is originally from Quebec City, Canada. He graduated from Quebec's "ELAN - Ecole de lutherie". He has his own business "ML Lutherie" and is in Port Coquitlam, Canada (near Vancouver). He also works at Rufus Guitar Shop in Vancouver. Meaulnes Laberge's connection to Guild is that he was in charge of Guild research and development for much of the time it was in Tacoma! He together with Tim Shaw designed/built prototypes like that Fibersonixx OB1-A graphite X-braced D-40 Richie Havens. (S/N TI046003).


EDIT: Reading the Guild webpage sometimes helps!



Ralf

Ralf:

Thanks for sharing that. All I can say is that you (if its a good day) learn something new every day. I didn't know about Meaulnes Laberge. I had never heard of him, and I thought I had a good grasp on the handbuilders we have up here. I did know about the whole Lasido/Guitabec/Godin history from my interest in Lys guitars, and thought this is was the only other major contributor to the acoustic guitar field in Quebec outside of Boucher and Greenfield guitars.