Price of missing paint

[Guildedagain]

is very high indeed. And saddle rust, a stiff premium.

This says a lot more about witless consumers than it does about Fender feeding this need.

You'll notice there's a bit cheaper one with a bit more paint.

The price of the missing paint is astronomical. There's really nothing else that can account for that high a price for a bucket of parts any jack/Jill can put together.

 

[lungimsam]

That's nothing.

I heard Gibson has an investment ownership program, where you don't even get to physically touch the guitar. It just exists there in some vault and you can say you are part owner since you buy shares of it.
I'm not sure who is determining the value at any given point. I wonder do they send you a 1099-B for tax purposes every year?

Gibson redefines guitars as investments with new Rally partnership

Rally will allow users to invest in $5-$10 shares of three hand-built, one-of-a-kind, artist-approved Gibson Custom Shop prototypes

www.guitarworld.com

PS- I know the point is investing in collectables, not physical ownership but it is interesting that some guitar companies these days are branching out into different territories outside of just manufacturing guitars to make money.

 

[GGJaguar]

The age old question of "relic" guitars.

 

[Guildedagain]

I never could personally get into beat up guitars. Worn, aged, yes, but I've never found damage to be appealing, unless superficial, and preferably on an electric guitar, "Electric Spanish".

To me, this natural relic-ing tops any Picasso, it's drawn by nature, not man.

Your guitar going feral.

 

[fronobulax]

is very high indeed. And saddle rust, a stiff premium.

Without going down the rabbit hole of the economic value of relic'ing it is possible that the "limited edition" status or the Ancho Poblano (because FMIC wants you to know they are hot) pickups are driving the price. The production seems to include roasting the body to drive out moisture which someone seems to make a difference in performance.

I'm not sure who is determining the value at any given point. I wonder do they send you a 1099-B for tax purposes every year?

There are standard ways to value something like that without an actual sale. But there are also ways to manipulate that valuation if people are motivated. The valuation, however, will only matter when you buy or sell your shares. Otherwise you just have an unrealized capital gain or loss. That means nothing to the IRS until you sell your shares or the guitars are sold and the proceeds distributed to the shareholders.

 

[Guildedagain]

Thx Fro

So it seems the value of the missing moisture is high as well.

It's just entry level silliness btw. My personal pet peeve was the McCready beater, but you can't buy one now, they're snapped up.

Sold prices.

Fender might still have a thing or two to teach biggies like Amzon and Mikey Dee's.

 

[Rocky]

Thx Fro

So it seems the value of the missing moisture is high as well.

In addition to the values of missing paint and moisture, it appears that people are high as well.

 

[shihan]

Well, I can’t say I fault Fender; they make a range of guitars for any budget. I guess it makes sense to market one specifically for people with too much money...

 

[adorshki]

Without going down the rabbit hole of the economic value of relic'ing it is possible that the "limited edition" status or the Ancho Poblano (because FMIC wants you to know they are hot) pickups are driving the price. The production seems to include roasting the body to drive out moisture which someone seems to make a difference in performance.

Of course it figures they'd pick one of the mildest chili peppers out there. It's almost as if they didn't know.

Of course "Jalapeno" 's been done to death and would likely be the kiss thereof if used here, but how about a little more imagination, like, "Ghost" or "Serrano"?

 

[adorshki]

You'll notice there's a bit cheaper one with a bit more paint.

The price of the missing paint is astronomical. There's really nothing else that can account for that high a price for a bucket of parts any jack/Jill can put together.

Of course the guys who're really laughing all the way are the paint guys who sold Fender cans of "Relic" paint. All thy had to do was leave 'em empty.

 

[adorshki]

Well, I can’t say I fault Fender; they make a range of guitars for any budget. I guess it makes sense to market one specifically for people with too much money...

There's no such thing as too much money. There is only insufficient debt. Your patriotic duty is clear.

 

[Guildedagain]

Meanwhile someone's not sleeping well because they got that 1st ding, and that one's hard to get over.

 

[adorshki]

Meanwhile someone's not sleeping well because they got that 1st ding, and that one's hard to get over.

The follow-ons aren't all that much easier, either. It's tough when you bought 'em new.

 

[Guildedagain]

Hear hear I do not ever intentionally inflict physical damage to a guitar, but plenty unintentionally. Like cymbals that appear out of nowhere...

 

[fronobulax]

The follow-ons aren't all that much easier, either. It's tough when you bought 'em new.

IIRC someone with an early Alembic bass gave it the first dent by hitting a heatsink on an amp. They still remember which model of Crown power amp it was or so I've heard.

The buckle rash on my JS II is very light but I can tell you which belt did it.

 

[Rocky]

is very high indeed. And saddle rust, a stiff premium.

This says a lot more about witless consumers than it does about Fender feeding this need.

You'll notice there's a bit cheaper one with a bit more paint.

The price of the missing paint is astronomical. There's really nothing else that can account for that high a price for a bucket of parts any jack/Jill can put together.

The white one doesn't have as much missing paint. That's why it's $300 cheaper.

 

[adorshki]

IIRC someone with an early Alembic bass gave it the first dent by hitting a heatsink on an amp. They still remember which model of Crown power amp it was or so I've heard.

The buckle rash on my JS II is very light but I can tell you which belt did it.

That may well be, but can you still wear it?

 

[adorshki]

The white one doesn't have as much missing paint. That's why it's $300 cheaper.

White's also more expensive than colors because they have to filter out all the pigments.

 

[fronobulax]

That may well be, but can you still wear it?

Yes, in terms of belt size and my waist size. Maybe because I think it is still in a box. Maybe not because I think it went into the box because something on the buckle broke. Belt is close to 50 years old. I continued to wear it after I discovered buclke rash. I just wrapped the buckle in a portion of an old t-shirt when I was playing any bass.

 

[Uke]

is very high indeed. And saddle rust, a stiff premium.

This says a lot more about witless consumers than it does about Fender feeding this need.

You'll notice there's a bit cheaper one with a bit more paint.

The price of the missing paint is astronomical. There's really nothing else that can account for that high a price for a bucket of parts any jack/Jill can put together.

Wow ! Now THAT top has really "opened up."