Open Tuners

[Bikerdoc]

I was super pleased when the D25 I got from Joe came with open back tuners. Quite simply and for no other reason, I like the look. That being said......what "other" reason(s) would you say there is to have such tuners? I'm considering going open on my other guitars.

Peace

 

[killdeer43]

I hope you don't mind, Doc, but here they are, in all their glory.

D25 open tuners

Lovely guitar, ain't it? :wink:

Joe

 

[twocorgis]

I was super pleased when the D25 I got from Joe came with open back tuners. Quite simply and for no other reason, I like the look. That being said......what "other" reason(s) would you say there is to have such tuners? I'm considering going open on my other guitars.

Peace

In the olden days, open back tuners were considered "cheap" and were found mostly on lower end guitars. A lot of the three on a plate tuners didn't function very well either. Times have changed, and now a lot of open back tuners are considered to be a premium appointment. I have a set of Waverlys on my D18DC, and a set of Gotoh 510s on my Bourgeois JOM. I really like the look and the function of both sets, and I think they have the added advantage of saving weight.

I know West doesn't like 'em though...

 

[AlohaJoe]

They're things of beauty now... and not very cheap.
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/...or_Slotted_Pegheads.html?tab=Pictures#details

 

[Bikerdoc]

Yes, it is a thing of beauty. One particular thing I like about it...

I don't know what it's called. I know there's some technical reason/lingo for it. When a guitar is tuned to standard tuning and you want to play in the key of 'E' the 'B' string needs to be tweaked a bit. I recall asking a repair guy about this phenomenon (if one would call it that) but I must've been daydreaming when he gave me the answer. :shock: I recall he DID say "most folks cannot hear that subtle difference". So now I don't have an excuse but simply selective hearing instead. :lol:

Anyway, for whatever reason, I don't have to do this with this wonderful D25. I'm still learning Joe, about guitars that is. I still can't get my s@#t together when it comes to learning to play. It's like I'm at crossroad or something. I'm wondering if I should start taking lessons as things just don't seem to click anymore; not like they did when I was younger. But then I had more things on my table than learning to play.

Peace

 

[AlohaJoe]

We're all still learning... but sometimes I feel like the little hooks came off my velcro. Usually it just takes a little push to get to the next plateau. I think progress in music is made by the hour. More hours playing = more progress. Don't get discouraged. I'm 63 and I don't learn or retain as fast as I once did, but even a half hour a day brings progress. An hour a day is even better, but any progress feels good and encourages me to work at it more. Believe it or not, it gets easier and even more fun the more you do it, but you have to put in enough 'woodshed' time to feel like you're making progress.

Lessons can really help no matter what stage of the process you're at, if you find a teacher you like. They don't have to be great, they just have to know a few things you don't and be able to present them in a way that works for you.

 

[Taylor Martin Guild]

I have grown to like the newer open back tuners.
I like the fact that you can oil them if and when needed.

As for the intonation of your D-25, it sounds like the guitar has a good set up that has compensated for the B string.

I have all my guitars set up to get the best intonation possible.
It maked playing them a lot for enjoyable.

Even my 12 string has a fully compensated saddle and it's great. Stays in tune very well, even when a capo is applied.