OK, putting a set of Kluson machines on a F-30 this weekend
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killdeer43
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I've done it and it is straightforward.merhere said:
Just take your time and enjoy the ride. :wink:
Joe
Walter Broes
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What era F30, and what type/ size were the original tuners?
iJamF47M
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As long as the measurements are the same, it's about as hard as loosening and tightening a couple screws. The part that becomes a bigger issue is if the replacement tuner mounting holes are not lining up with the originals drilled into your headstock. Then things get a little more messy.
Pictures when complete are manditory!
iJam
Pictures when complete are manditory!
iJam
Hit a little snag. The old bushings have a large flange that rests on the front of the headstock. The new bushings have a small flange. The indents from the old flange will show. The new posts won't quite fit in the old bushings. So, I will go in search of new bushings with a wider flange. The saga continues.
adorshki
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Ah, so you WERE right about it looking too easy. When I saw that first post I said to myself, "yeah, I know exactly what he means!" :lol: I applaud your desire to keep the appearance clean and original. Good luck and "Keep us posted"!merhere said:
Sorry for the delay. Had an out of town trip.
It's done! I went with the Gotoh Tuners with a 1:15 ratio. The holes in the guitar were over sized. That proved to be a help as the 3/8" adapter bushings had a bigger flange. I had to drill one small hole for a mounting screw, but the other holes from the old tuners lined up. The tuners work much better, not as good as the individual Grovers, but much better than the originals. The 3-on-a-plate tuners keep the look and feel close to the original and I can reinstall the old tuners if I ever want to.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mer_images ... 771564191/
It's done! I went with the Gotoh Tuners with a 1:15 ratio. The holes in the guitar were over sized. That proved to be a help as the 3/8" adapter bushings had a bigger flange. I had to drill one small hole for a mounting screw, but the other holes from the old tuners lined up. The tuners work much better, not as good as the individual Grovers, but much better than the originals. The 3-on-a-plate tuners keep the look and feel close to the original and I can reinstall the old tuners if I ever want to.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mer_images ... 771564191/
solenoid lopez
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Tastefully done, good job!!!!
adorshki
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Yah thumbs up!
Replacing original tuners on a 74 D25
I just replaced the original 3 on a plate tuners on my 74 D-25. I installed Grover model V138N (got them for $38). They look very similar to the old Klusen deluxes, and have a good vintage look with nickle plated buttons. The posts fit perfectly, and all but the top attaching screw hole lined up. The new ferrules were slightly bigger than the originals, and wouldnt fit without enlarging the post holes, and I did not want to do that at all. So, I left the original ferrules on, put the 3 screws that fit in, and drilled the top screw hole with a dremel and small bit. The original top screw hole is under the plate, so it can not be seen. I used the original screws. I am not a luthier, but it was a pretty simple fix, made a world of difference, and looks good too. I could twist the old tuners over half a turn without them catching anything.
I just replaced the original 3 on a plate tuners on my 74 D-25. I installed Grover model V138N (got them for $38). They look very similar to the old Klusen deluxes, and have a good vintage look with nickle plated buttons. The posts fit perfectly, and all but the top attaching screw hole lined up. The new ferrules were slightly bigger than the originals, and wouldnt fit without enlarging the post holes, and I did not want to do that at all. So, I left the original ferrules on, put the 3 screws that fit in, and drilled the top screw hole with a dremel and small bit. The original top screw hole is under the plate, so it can not be seen. I used the original screws. I am not a luthier, but it was a pretty simple fix, made a world of difference, and looks good too. I could twist the old tuners over half a turn without them catching anything.
solenoid lopez
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Sounds good JL, hows 'bout some pictures?
Bikerdoc
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Nice looking job.
I tried that once but my 20 ounce Estwing hammer was too big when it came time to set the plate screws. :shock: If it don't involve a 16 penny nail I'm pretty much at a loss.
Peace
I tried that once but my 20 ounce Estwing hammer was too big when it came time to set the plate screws. :shock: If it don't involve a 16 penny nail I'm pretty much at a loss.
Peace