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Hello to all-I'm a new member and I'd like to get some feedback (pun intended) from anyone about a D-55 I just got a few months ago.

First I'll give you the specs-A 1977 D-55 from the Westerly R.I. factory. Sunburst, overall
condition is A-. It has the usual nicks and scratches for it's age. Serial # is 182348 - Label gives
model # as D-55SB. I'm guessing the SB is for "sunburst". I've had the frets dressed and the neck
had a lot of "sticky spots" from age and dirt in the lacquer finish on the back of the neck. I sanded
all the lacquer off the neck and applied Thompson's water seal to the raw wood. I started with 200 grit paper and finished with 600 till it was very smooth. A guitar tech at the store told me to try this and He was right on the money. I'd recommend this to anyone who has a neck with dirt and decayed lacquer on older models. Especially in the "first position" area. I live in Atlanta GA and the humidity and heat in the summer does it's job on everything that's susceptible to damage and fatigue-including people, from that sticky, stagnant, oppressive heat! I paid 1400.00 with a HSC that says Martin on it.
What can I say? life isn't perfect. I was thinking about a different case, but this thing is a "bomb-shelter" so as long as I know what's on the inside, who gives a %$#@!!

This model has what I call the older pickup that's mounted under the bridge. I'm not sure what the difference is with the newer models and when it was changed. Anyone who has info on this I would ask pass it along to me. If I plug it in directly to an amp I have to dime the volume on most amps to get a decent audible level. I started using a Presonus pre-amp that has a 12AX7 tube along with a gain knob and a drive knob. This unit gives me the volume I need and it's got a good tone to it. Right now I don't have a "dedicated" acoustic amp. The amps I own are-a 2010 Fender Superchamp XD, A Vox VT-15 Valvetronix that's 2 years old. The big boy in my collection is an Ampeg Reverbrocket which is a '90's reissue with 50 watts and a 12" speaker. The Vox is 15 watts/8" speaker and the Fender is 15 watts/10 inch speaker. The Best sounding amp for the D55 is the Fender. It has an "acoustic" setting on the modeling circuit that disables the gain control and gives a very clean tone. I also have a Weber 10" speaker with an Alnico magnet that has a very sweet tone and breaks up later than the stock speaker. I have Tung-sol tubes in both the power and pre-amp slots. I understand the differences between regular amps and acoustic amps and I'll get a dedicated amp at a later date when the $$$ is available. I've heard very good things about the Kustom sienna model. Anyone who has an amp recommendation, please pass it along. I'm not a pro and I jam with friends at small clubs occasionally on open mike nights. I'd also like to hear from anyone that has info on pickups and/or pre-amps they have used that work well. I want to keep it as original as I can, so I'm not looking to cut holes or drill here or there.

So that's what's on my mind today and I welcome all responses or questions and I'll answer anyone that's requires an answer as soon as I can. We all share the same passion for the brand and I've been looking for a Guild "D" size for a while. I walked in the store and as I was asking if they had any D models............my eyes fell on this beauty hanging from it's peg and I knew it was going home with me. The owner said when he saw that look in my eye, he knew it was sold. I've been doing business with this store for a few years and it's a cool neighborhood type place. I avoid the "BIG BOX" stores at all costs because I'm a former small business owner and I know and support small business people when I can.

Time to sign-off and I thank all of you for your help!!!
 

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Welcome djangodaddy!!!

Sounds like you have a dandy. A Westerly D-55 sunburst. :mrgreen: :shock: :mrgreen:

Glad to have you here. 8)

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Welcome DD!

Enjoy that lady and post some pics whenever you can! We love pics! :D

And btw, someone quite soon will appear with some answers to your inquires!

All the best,

B.
 

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Welcome to the forum, django. A Westerly D55 sounds like a good start to me!
And yes, we all enjoy photos of our respective Guilds, so let's see a shot or three of that beauty.

You'll like it here so stick around and keep it tuned. :wink:

Joe
 

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Welcome to LTG land.

My experience is, an acoustic guitar is never going to sound at it's best via an amp designed for electric guitars. Others will differ. Acoustic amps have more in common with P.A.'s than electric amps. If you're going to jam with friends at open mic style venues and they have a P.A. I'd go direct. A pre amp or D.I. box will definately get a lot more oomph out of your existing passive pick up system.

More importantly, let's see some pics!!!!
 

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Welcome! Sounds like a beauty - We want pics!!

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First of all, welcome to the Forum.
As far as your pick up goes, I would suggest replacing it. The newer electronics are far superior to what you have.
There is a lot of love for the K&K systems here.
An Acoustic amp will make a big difference in the sound and tone when plugged in.
Just like the guitar, be sure to try out several different amps before making your choice.

If you do go with a new pick up and choose something like the K&K, you will need to also have a new saddle installed in the guitar.
The K&K isn't an under the saddle pick up so when the old pick up is removed, the saddle will sit too low in the bridge.

You should get an improved sound from the guitar acoustically, with the USP removed, IMHO.

Enjoy your D-55 and as already said, post pictures.
 

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Re: the sticky neck

Did you try lighter fluid,I.e. naptha first on the sticky parts of the neck? I have never heard of Thompsons water seal used in that manner before. Would that interfere with refinishing down the line?
Welcome and looking forward to the guitar pr0n!
 
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I thank all of you folks for your warm welcome words and salutations. I had emailed one of the other members about my camera being stolen so I'll get the pics up ASAP after I get a new one. I didn't try the lighter fluid because I was not hip to it. Sanding old lacquer is a laborious pain in the %*&^. The feel of the neck was very sticky and after a few weeks I had to do something. I've lived in Atlanta for the past 30+ years and every indoor space Is air conditioned to the max 5-6 months of the year so the wood goes through very humid to very dry extremes. The tech at the music store told me he does the routine to all his guitars. I figured if it didn't work, I'd save some $$ if I had to take it to a Luthier because he wouldn't have to strip it. I did use some nail polish remover to cut through the heavy spots and after getting it very smooth I applied lemon oil and 2 heavy coats of the Thompson water seal. I let it dry for 24 hours and repeated the process. I love the way it feels now. Not oily or sticky or dry, just natural nice wood. When I took it to the Luthier that dressed the frets he said it was OK to leave it that way as long as I did the lemon oil periodically. I also play a Fender Strat that's 2 years old so the neck doesn't have that problem. As far as Refinishing it, the natural colors of the 3 piece neck take on a darker tone that is best described as very dark redwood or red-tinged burnt sienna except for the Maple strip in the middle. The colors all blend well with the sides and I'm very happy with the way it looks and feels!!

I looked at the K&K website and the pickups look like a good option. That's a bit down the road for now but anyone who has a specific type that they have experience with, please let me know. Thanks again for the welcome!!!
 

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hey Django,

Gidday from New Zealand. Welcome along. A westerly D55 is a fine place to start: That was my first Guild too....

Regarding your pickup: if it's the same as my '77 F50R, then I think it's a barcus berry and sits under the bridgeplate ? In this case it's not a USP, and not mounted under the saddle (looks like a thin metal strip: think Fishman). If it's the barcus berry type then I'd PM usermember Taabru, who has a spare preamp for one. I'd concur with the other guy's here and say that if you're using it for open mic type things where it goes into a mixer then you wont need to buy an acoustic amp...

Cheers, Ian

NB Love to see some photo's of that thing :wink:
 

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Burst? Where? Welcome to LTG! :D Can't wait to see it! :mrgreen:
 

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Welcome django!

Sounds like you have a D-55 that now meets your every need and expectation. And Guild sunbursts are some of the very best out there! Here are some pics of my '76 F-50SB:

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FWIW, in '06 I bought a new D-55 (Tacoma built) with the intent of making it my main gigging instrument. Here she is:

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Immediately after buying the guitar I had Gryphon Stringed Instruments (Palo Alto, CA) install a Fishman Matrix pup. If you plan on using a guitar cord over 6 ft in length, you will lose signal if you don't have an active pickup like the Fishman, Highlander iP-2, etc. This Fishman uses a 9 volt battery that mounts inside and seems to last forever.

When I gig I play through a 2006 Fender Acoustasonic Jr DSP amp and use some BOSS pedals with it. The amp has effects onboard, but it's much faster to stomp on a pedal than to have to spin dials and remember settings. This amp also has an OUTSTANDING vocal channel that will make ANYONE sound like a MUCH better singer than they really are. And I need all the help I can get!

I also LOVE the Tilt-Back legs for getting the sound to the back of the room (bounces off ceiling. Leo Fender was a smart guy!).

At our weekly Open Mic in Half Moon Bay, CA (Cameron's Pub & Inn), however, I sing through the house PA system and plug my axe into my beloved Fender Vibro Champ and the same BOSS pedals I use with the Fender Acoustasonic amp. Here's that setup:

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The pedals are: BOSS RV-3 Digital Reverb/Delay, BOSS CH-1 Super Chorus, BOSS DM-2 Analog Delay, Ibanez TS-9RI Overdrive, BOSS TR-2 Tremolo, BOSS TU-2 Tuner (also powers the other pedals). The carrying case is a BOSS BCB-6.

I bought one of those collapsible luggage carriers and I can get all my gear to the gig in just one trip. The guitar TONE thru that Vibro Champ is just OFF THE CHARTS! I had a Line Out installed on the Vibro Champ with a Volume knob in case I ever needed to pipe it through a PA system. So far I've never had a need to do that.

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If you're curious about "The SINK", it's a place in Boulder, CO where I used to play on occasion while going to college there in the 60's. Robert Redford used to wait tables there when he too was a student. Here's a pic:

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You're gonna love that guitar. It just doesn't get any better than GUILD!!!

(BTW, I recently got an iPhone4S and I'm overdosing on posting pics while the rush lasts)

Bill

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'06 F-412
'76 F-50SB
'74 D-40 (my fav)
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Hey Bill,

Great post and photo's. That pub looks cool, diiging your vibro champ too: what vintage is that ?

Cheers, Ian
 

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diiging your vibro champ too: what vintage is that ?

Hey Ian!

I was told it is a '72 Vibro Champ. I've never bothered to check the numbers on it.

Other than adding the LINE OUT, it's all stock.

Just a SUPER amp!

Hope everything is well down there in that BEAUTIFUL country of yours!

How are the folks in Christchurch getting on? Man, I really wish those folks the best because they've sure had more than their share of bad luck...

Bill

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Hey Bill,

Not too sure there's goning to be many folks left in Christchurch after all this... There's entire suburbs that are now empty save for one or two houses. There's also talk of many of the manufacturers relocating to the north island. Many families are moving here to Nelson (thus placing more pressure on the employment situation :( In fact one job I applied for the other day, I was the 100th applicant, with many being out of towners). So in short, nice climate but apart from that we're fxxxxx.....

Cheers, Ian
 

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Ian...

Wow, that is SO sad to hear.

My memories of Christchurch are what a lovely place it was to be. I went there many times when in the USAF. Was able to ski Mt Cook several times during those trips.

Part of my Squadron's mission was to resupply the folks working at Cape McMurdo, Antarctica. Christchurch is where we staged our flights from to go down to the ice.

Nothing but nice folks there, a killer great Air Museum, and unmatched scenery. I was so taken with it on my first trip to NZ (1971) that I applied to Air New Zealand to be a pilot and was prepared to move my family there. However, not being a native Kiwi and there being more pilots than jobs, I never got an offer.

My heart goes out to all the folks adversely affected by all this trauma. And, since I live on a major earthquake fault myself, I pray that our next big one won't be while any of my family still lives here.

Here's a pic of the C-141B Lockheed Starlifter that got me to NZ:
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And, on a happier note, here's a pic of me playing my '76 F-50SB last night at our weekly Open Mic (Camerons Pub & Inn, Half Moon Bay, CA). That's our friend "Skimpy" playing bass in the background.
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Songs I covered last night were Mellencamp's "Smalltown", James Taylor's "Fire & Rain", and PP&M's "If I Had A Hammer". Great fun! And that guitar plays/sounds FANTASTIC!

Bill
 
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