New guitar, strap button hole too large

Lowell

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Hi, just received my new OM-120, and man, it's lovely.....Unfortunately, the strap button came loose (in a baggie with the Allen wrench), and factory-drilled hole is just a hair (or two) too large. Y'all have any ideas on how to fix this? Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
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Usually the tapered peg is just a friction fit. What's with the Allen wrench? Is there an expansion screw inside the peg so that when you turn the screw the peg expands?
 

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Thanks for replying! It's clearly intended to be a friction fit, but it goes in all the way to the base with no friction at all...Falls right out. . It looks like I need to just seal the button in with silicone caulk.

The wrench is just a coincidence, being in the same bag as the button. It fits the truss rod
 

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I have usually just used a small piece of scotch tape on the side of the pin... doesn't take a whole wrap, usually just a quarter of the pin circumference, or so, to get a good tight fit. I've also just used a thin shim of typing paper held in the hole as I insert the peg.

More "permanent" methods include coating the shaft of the pin with a thin layer of super glue and LETTING IT DRY BEFORE INSERTING THE PIN to increase the diameter a bit... or applying a thin coat of superglue to the inside of the pin hole and LETTING IT DRY BEFORE INSERTING THE PIN. The object is NOT TO GLUE THE PIN IN, just to increase the pin diameter or decrease the hole diameter sufficiently to give a tight friction fit.
 

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Call Guild. Maybe they have larger diameter pin they can send you.
 

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I have usually just used a small piece of scotch tape on the side of the pin... doesn't take a whole wrap, usually just a quarter of the pin circumference, or so, to get a good tight fit. I've also just used a thin shim of typing paper held in the hole as I insert the peg.

More "permanent" methods include coating the shaft of the pin with a thin layer of super glue and LETTING IT DRY BEFORE INSERTING THE PIN to increase the diameter a bit... or applying a thin coat of superglue to the inside of the pin hole and LETTING IT DRY BEFORE INSERTING THE PIN. The object is NOT TO GLUE THE PIN IN, just to increase the pin diameter or decrease the hole diameter sufficiently to give a tight friction fit.

The tape idea worked perfectly! Good thinking. Thank you.
 

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"crank said:
Call Guild. Maybe they have larger diameter pin they can send you.
Why would they have that?"


It's like when you get your engine bored out. .010 over, .020 over, .030 over for extreme cases ;]]

"I have usually just used a small piece of scotch tape on the side of the pin... doesn't take a whole wrap, usually just a quarter of the pin circumference, or so, to get a good tight fit. I've also just used a thin shim of typing paper held in the hole as I insert the peg.

More "permanent" methods include coating the shaft of the pin with a thin layer of super glue and LETTING IT DRY BEFORE INSERTING THE PIN to increase the diameter a bit... or applying a thin coat of superglue to the inside of the pin hole and LETTING IT DRY BEFORE INSERTING THE PIN. The object is NOT TO GLUE THE PIN IN, just to increase the pin diameter or decrease the hole diameter sufficiently to give a tight friction fit."


Saved this info. There's nothing like suddenly realizing you're missing a bottom pin like it fell out and you didn't know, nor do you know how long it's been missing or have a clue as to where the pin is...

I do also remember they're a liability in shipping, so being removable without resorting to pipe wrenches is a plus ;]]
 
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Really, wouldn't it just be easier to get a replacement smaller hole......geez!


That reminds me of my friend who's father was working at local mill where they also produced macaroni. We teased him asking if his dad would be boring holes into macaroni - he said - Non, the holes are ready made - he just puts the macaroni around them.

Back to original subject - one could cut the "sleeve" of that peg to extend the taper in order to make the peg go deeper and stay put.
 

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Back to original subject - one could cut the "sleeve" of that peg to extend the taper in order to make the peg go deeper and stay put.

You're going to have to explain how this would work. While yes, if the taper is long enough that eventually the diameter of the taper would "catch up" to the diameter of the hole, I don't think that is the case here. Since the guitar is hollow there is no need to cut anything it would just go further into the guitar. The problem is the taper is not long enough and the strap peg at the end of he taper is going into the hole and therefore inaccessible.
 

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Have the hole plugged and drilled to the correct size.
 

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Well - them damned foreigners - they can't even explain anything in plain english . . . grmph grnhtsgf


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If you remove part of the sleeve - like up to that dotted line - then the peg goes deeper and relative diameter gets thicker.

Of course this works only if thesize difference is not too big.
 

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And how would you EASILY remove part of the collar and get the taper nice and even on a part like this? I'm really glad I know to use tape now...... :rolleyes:
 
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