My final result on the finish... T100d (using iodine stain)

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When you consider the shade, its a bit like old lacquer....and if you sand the top down, stain it wipe it off with a damp rag, then a rag dampened with methyl hydrate...spray some lacquer on it, then buff it with a wet cloth and baby powder, talc.....and follow by wiping with a nice dry cloth to dry and remove the residue talc...then this is what you end up with.....Whew....my english teacher would not be happy with a 1 sentence paragraph........... don't ask!......Its just one of the ways my mind works.....Steffan


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Re: How do you get rid of an Iodine stain...on a T100d

I guess my question would be, how do you GET an iodine stain on the front of your guitar in the first place?? :shock:

Always put your guitar down first when you attempt wound care......
 

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Re: How do you get rid of an Iodine stain...on a T100d

They didn't teach that in trade school!...I bought some iodine a little while ago, used it a few times, then thought the color was about right for the shade I was thinking about.... apply? I used a single sock...on sanded wood, tried it 1st on a pine storage shelf....soaked in looked good...the rest was flying by the seat of my pants.....nice result...Steffan
 

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Re: How do you get rid of an Iodine stain...on a T100d

You did it on PURPOSE? Never mind.....

There are water based stains that you can use that are actually made for this purpose. If they get a little dark you just wash them with more water to leech the stain from the wood. Either way, you should always use a spit coat (4:1 denatured alcohol:shellac) before staining to ensure the even coverage of stain.
 

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Re: How do you get rid of an Iodine stain...on a T100d

Thanks Tom....I'll keep that in mind.........for next time....I'm actually pretty happy with how it looks, still vintage, but cool......like me.....! Did I mention I spend a lot of time in my
right brain......Steffan
 

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Re: How do you get rid of an Iodine stain...on a T100d

taabru45 said:
Thanks Tom....I'll keep that in mind.........for next time....I'm actually pretty happy with how it looks, still vintage, but cool......like me.....! Steffan

And if you cut yourself, you can just rub it on the guitar!

Cool-looking finish from an unorthodox method. I like it!

Dave :D
 

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I doubt it will be growing any mold in its future......I like it too......didn't want to say anything about the 'stain' till I saw it...but its a great shade....
My 1st attempt at 'refinishing'....Tom could have taught me the right way but then I might have screwed it up...

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I hadn't of iodine being used before. I know Potassium Dichromate has a chemical reaction with Mahogany and cherry to darken it similar to years of exposure. (Its also somewhat toxic, so it has to be used with all due protection.) I wonder if there was some chemical interaction in addition to the coloration.

Looks great!
 

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Looks sweet! glad it worked out for you so well!! Have to agree with Tom though, a spit coat will give you a much more degree of controll and the newer "dewaxed" lines of shellac are compatable with just about any topcoat or stain,but, hey..looks great!! :D
You done good!!!! :D :D :D
 

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AcornHouse said:
I hadn't of iodine being used before. I know Potassium Dichromate has a chemical reaction with Mahogany and cherry to darken it similar to years of exposure. (Its also somewhat toxic, so it has to be used with all due protection.) I wonder if there was some chemical interaction in addition to the coloration.

Looks great!
Oh boy. Iodine staining, methyl hydrate, potassium dichromate. Good times. During the early days of aviation all the way to after WWII, maintenance crews and mechanics would use benzene to clean off the grit and grime off of planes. Well several years later, many of these service men developed leukemia. It turned out that benzene is enzymatically altered in the body to mutagenic forms. Without getting too specific, these forms of benzene reacted with the white blood cell's DNA, mutated it, thus developing cancer. Well, there goes all the fun times.

Any body know the difference between methanol (methyl hydrate) and ethanol? Not much...just one little tiny carbon. We drink ethanol. It is in beer, wine, hard liquor. Our body metabolizes it to acetic acid (vinegar) and we just excrete it. Good times. Now what happens if we drink methanol? Our body metabolizes to formic acid and formaldehyde. These, in turn, cause optical nerve damage and we go blind. Damn.....there goes all the good times.

Anybody know what happens when you rub potassium dichromate on wood? Potassium dichromate is an oxidant, kind of like bleach. What most likely happens is that is reacts with various highly colored aromatic molecules remaining in the wood. It oxidizes them, thus changing their spectroscopic properties (i.e. changes how they absorb light, thus changing their color). A couple other fun tidbits is that potassium dichromate is a severe mutagen and highly carcinogenic. Its purchasing and resulting waste is highly controlled in the chemical industry.

My point is that there is a lot of items for sale out there that do a job very well, just like cleaning planes with benzene. What we do not realize is the adverse effects of handling these chemicals improperly and the eventual ramifications to come.
 

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Re: How do you get rid of an Iodine stain...on a T100d

taabru45 said:
Did I mention I spend a lot of time in my
right brain......Steffan
May we infer then that you don't spend much time in the wrong brain?
 

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Ridgemont said:
My point is that there is a lot of items for sale out there that do a job very well, just like cleaning planes with benzene. What we do not realize is the adverse effects of handling these chemicals improperly and the eventual ramifications to come.
You wouldn'ta had much fun, in the sixties.
Damn, there goes all the good times.
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