Guild X-170

[GAD]

The "T" in X-170T stands for "Tennessee Orange" as I understand it.

Sorry, but I just read the full thread. The T in X-170T does stand for tremolo. Please refer to the 2001 Guild price list for a description of each guitar:

http://www.jedistar.com/pdf/Guild_2001_pricelist.pdf

The X-170 Manhattan comes in Tennessee Orange, Antique Burst and Blonde (per the price list). My understanding from the description is that the X-170T comes in all three colors as well, but I have never seen one in any color except orange. I'm sure Hans' Guild Guitar Book 2 will clear up the confusion, and maybe with a picture of a non-orange 170T :wink: Perhaps the man himself can clear it up in this thread before the official word is out.?

Then it should be a X-170V for "vibrato". 8)

 

[Bobo]

The T in X-170T does stand for tremolo. Please refer to the 2001 Guild price list for a description of each guitar:

http://www.jedistar.com/pdf/Guild_2001_pricelist.pdf

The X-170 Manhattan comes in Tennessee Orange, Antique Burst and Blonde (per the price list). My understanding from the description is that the X-170T comes in all three colors as well, but I have never seen one in any color except orange. I'm sure Hans' Guild Guitar Book 2 will clear up the confusion, and maybe with a picture of a non-orange 170T :wink: Perhaps the man himself can clear it up in this thread before the official word is out.?

I've seen a few X-170T's in blonde, likewise in orange... never seen one in sunburst.

Yeah, a Bigsby is really a vibrato, not a trem... but Fender calls their whammy bars "tremolo" units as well...

 

[guildman63]

As fate would have it there is currently an X-170T in Blonde for sale on Ebay as we speak! It is listed as an X-170, but I can just make out the T on the inner label in one of the pictures.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Almost-Perfect-1998 ... 35afc46e94

 

[GAD]

Lies LIES LIES!!

You're all conspiring against me. I won't be proven wrong. I WON'T!








dammit...

 

[guildman63]

It's all an illusion! I'm sure it was originally orange and was refinished blonde. A new label was put on after the refin to make it appear all original...it's a conspiracy by FMIC to ruin the Guild name. :lol:

 

[Bobo]

Hey, how large is the sound post in an X-170? Is it a simple dowel under the bridge or more like a block of wood? Since the X-170(T) is probably the Guild I'm most interested in, I wonder about that and the guitar's resistance to feedback when played in club/bar settings.

 

[powerwagonjohn]

My 1992 X-170 has a block about as wide as the bridge and about 3/4" thick. It's also glued to a block that is about 1" wide and 1/2" thick that's glued to the back of the body. It's not a post like used in the Gretsch guitars. And the top is definitely laminated. I do not have nearly as much trouble with feedback with the Guild X-170 as with my Gibson L-4CES which has a carved top.

Thanks John

 

[guildman63]

My X-170T feeds back much less than my X-500, and I have found the X-500 to be more resistant than most full hollow bodies to feedback.

 

[powerwagonjohn]

guildman, the X-500 would have a laminated top, correct? I think that would help a bit with the feedback. My L-4CES goes crazy and feeds back quite easy but it has a great sound all it's own! I still have fond memories of a 1958 X-550 that got away. Some day......
Thanks John

 

[guildman63]

That is correct, the X-500 is laminated while the X-700 is carved. That '58 X-550 must have been sssshweeeeeeeet!!

 

[Beat_Dominator]

I just looked in mine again, it is a block at least as wide as the base of the bridge, but there also appears to be some board/bracing on the top that runs the length of the body. It's not too thick, maybe 1/8"? I assume this board would hold the pickups but I've never seen the pickups removed from a x170.

 

[Bobo]

I just looked in mine again, it is a block at least as wide as the base of the bridge, but there also appears to be some board/bracing on the top that runs the length of the body. It's not too thick, maybe 1/8"? I assume this board would hold the pickups but I've never seen the pickups removed from a x170.

Interesting, thanks for the info!

 

[GAD]

I've played my Guild X170T at volume and never had a problem with it feeding back. My SFIII on the other hand howled like crazy even at low volume the second my hands were off the strings. The trick was not to take my hands off the strings.

I don't view feedback in hollow bodies as that big a deal. If you watch Brian Sezter live, he is the master of the master volume. The second he's done, the volume is off. At the beginning of "Sleepwalk" on one of his concert disks he took his hands off of his guitar to bow to the drummer and the guitar started to howl.

It's part of the hollowbody game. Learn it. Live it. Love it.

 

[NEONMOONY]

It's part of the hollowbody game. Learn it. Live it. Love it.

Sometimes, I love it. You can play with a natural sustain. You have to use some palm muting to keep it under control and be quick with the volume control when you stop playing or have a pickup that is turned nearly all the way down and quickly flip the selector to the muted pickup.