D46 Ash Mystery

[Nigel Wickwire]

.... I think the older ones with rosewood centerpieces are the only 3-piece backs on a Guild acoustic... if you want to call it that.
Dave

Thanks, Dave. I was just wondering that very thing. Three piece backs are relatively common on Martin and Taylor. Guild? Not so much.....

~nw

 

[chazmo]

Are the necks ash also? Doesn't look like mahogany or maple in any of these pictures. I wonder if this is the only Guild acoustic with a neck like that.

Good eye! Good Question! HANS?!?!

I'm not Hans, but yes, the necks are also ash. I think the older ones with rosewood centerpieces are the only 3-piece backs on a Guild acoustic... if you want to call it that.
Dave

Thanks, Dave! I consulted Gruhn's guide last night, and the ash neck is mentioned. I didn't see any others with ash necks (but I didn't do an exhaustive search). I also think you might be right about the 3-piece back (I don't think that was mentioned in Gruhn's, by the way) and the D-46 being the only one that had one. Neat!

[edit: Oh, I should make a point that while Martin sees fit to include a 3-piece back as part of the specs for their 35 series, Taylor just does 3-piece backs on a whim if they really like the wood. I.e., Taylor doesn't have a specific model designation that designates when 3-piece back is used. Thus, it's possible that Guild didn't indicate it when models (like the D-46) might've had a 3-piece back. I'm not saying there were any, I was just noting the possibility that there could be some out there.]

 

[GardMan]

Are the necks ash also?

[yes, the necks are also ash. Dave

I should clarify... as obvious in some of the pics posted, the D-46 neck was a three piece neck, with ash and a mahogany center stripe

Thanks, Dave! I consulted Gruhn's guide last night, and the ash neck is mentioned. I didn't see any others with ash necks (but I didn't do an exhaustive search). I also think you might be right about the 3-piece back (I don't think that was mentioned in Gruhn's, by the way) and the D-46 being the only one that had one. Neat!

[edit: Oh, I should make a point that while Martin sees fit to include a 3-piece back as part of the specs for their 35 series, Taylor just does 3-piece backs on a whim if they really like the wood. it's possible that Guild didn't indicate it when models (like the D-46) might've had a 3-piece back. I'm not saying there were any, I was just noting the possibility that there could be some out there.]

Agreed! With Guild, you never know what might be out there...

 

[adorshki]

I think the older ones with rosewood centerpieces are the only 3-piece backs on a Guild acoustic... if you want to call it that.
Dave

Just to add to the feedback on that, I can't recall ever seeing another 3 piece back out there either. In fact I remember noting that to myself the first time is saw a pic of one a few months back.

 

[dane]

I was wondering if anyone here could post a good sound clip of the D-46, for those who don’t know what there missing? :shock: :mrgreen:
I would gladly do so if I had a way to do it. A little fuel for the GAS as it were. :wink:

Dane

 

[Nigel Wickwire]

I was wondering if anyone here could post a good sound clip of the D-46, for those who don’t know what there missing? :shock: :mrgreen:
I would gladly do so if I had a way to do it. A little fuel for the GAS as it were. :wink:

Dane

Try this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EFl3fbJGEA

Edit: Referenced here ->http://letstalkguild.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=17734

~nw

 

[dane]

I was wondering if anyone here could post a good sound clip of the D-46, for those who don’t know what there missing? :shock: :mrgreen:
I would gladly do so if I had a way to do it. A little fuel for the GAS as it were. :wink:

Dane

Try this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EFl3fbJGEA

Edit: Referenced here ->http://letstalkguild.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=17734

~nw

Yep…I remember that one! Pretty girl, nice voice, and a great guitar. But the guy playing it…I don’t know…there’s something about him…he seem kind of shifty don’t you think? :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Just kidding you krysh! I said it before and I’ll say it again, you did a great job! 8)

Dane

 

[GardMan]

I was wondering if anyone here could post a good sound clip of the D-46, for those who don’t know what there missing? :shock: :mrgreen:
I would gladly do so if I had a way to do it. A little fuel for the GAS as it were. :wink:

Dane

Try this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EFl3fbJGEA

Edit: Referenced here ->http://letstalkguild.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=17734

~nw

Yes, that is, of course, our own krysh. Michael is a much better player and (sound tech) than me. But I have a few songs recorded with my D-46 posted on my soundclick page (here's one... I think I have at least one tune with each of my Guilds, save the D-50). For fingerpicking, I find the D-46 easier to balance in a recording, relative to my rosewood dreads (which end up too boomy).

 

[dapmdave]

I was wondering if anyone here could post a good sound clip of the D-46, for those who don’t know what there missing? :shock: :mrgreen:
I would gladly do so if I had a way to do it. A little fuel for the GAS as it were. :wink:

Dane

Try this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EFl3fbJGEA

Edit: Referenced here ->http://letstalkguild.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=17734

~nw

Yes, that is, of course, our own krysh. Michael is a much better player and (sound tech) than me. But I have a few songs recorded with my D-46 posted on my soundclick page (here's one... I think I have at least one tune with each of my Guilds, save the D-50). For fingerpicking, I find the D-46 easier to balance in a recording, relative to my rosewood dreads (which end up too boomy).

That D-46 really sounds good. And they all look fantastic! Being completely made of ash, are they any heavier than other Guilds (which are sometimes pretty heavy, anyway)?

Dave

 

[GardMan]

That D-46 really sounds good. And they all look fantastic! Being completely made of ash, are they any heavier than other Guilds (which are sometimes pretty heavy, anyway)?
Dave

As I recall, my 46 is my heaviest, at 5#15oz (weighed on the kitchen scale)... with my D-55 a close second at 5#14oz. That's nearly 1-3/4# heavier than my lightest, which is my D-35.
D

 

[KenL]

Nice to see all those nice D46s. Mine is #DL100319, made in '81 or '82, can't remember right offhand and I'm too lazy to walk upstairs and look.

As for the 3-piece back, I heard it explained like this: Guild would build the 2-piece back with the strip of inlay (like mine) if the two pieces of ash were sufficiently wide. If the ash wasn't quite wide enough, they would add a strip of rosewood so as not to waste the ash.

Can't remember where I read that, but it makes sense. Also, it would explain the varying widths of the rosewood that you see. Either way, they are dymamite guitars. It was a lucky day when I stumbled across mine, and I'm glad I grabbed it.