Carrying guitars on planes -- horror stories

wileypickett

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I read an article in the NY Times a few years ago about the difficulties musicians had taking their instruments on airplanes. The article ended by saying that airline regulations for transporting musical instruments were slated to change (for the better, it implied) like at the beginning of 2007. I can't say I've seen any improvement.

If you carry your guitar in a hardshell case, which gives it the best protection, you will almost certainly have to check it. In which case, yes, do everything this article recommends (courtesy of littlesongs) :

http://www.frets.com/FRETSPages/Musicia ... king1.html

Especially the part about packing around the headstock to prevent whiplash.

In 2002, I played a concert with Peter Lang (of Fahey / Kottke / Lang fame) in NYC. He was flying in from Minneapolis, and while he was waiting to take off, he sat watching out the window as the bags were tossed onto the conveyer belt.

You can imagine what he felt as he saw his guitar get nearly to the top of the belt and then fall off onto the tarmac! Sure enough, when he got his guitar at the baggage carousel and opened the case, the headstock had snapped clean off.

He'd at least had the foresight to insure the guitar, but guess what? Because there was no damage to the CASE beyond a few scuffs, he couldn't collect -- the airline's argument was that he could have put the guitar in the case already broken, and insured it just to make money off the airline.

I've seen a guitar case (not mine, fortunately) come down the carousel with broken and missing latches, I assume because the case had been locked and had been forced open with a crowbar or something. (Don't lock your case.)

I've had a guitar that I'd carefully packed with bubble wrap arrive with the case completely open, because security couldn't fit the wrap back into the case after pulling everything apart. They just swathed everything in plastic, and sent it through. (It was OK.)

I missed a connecting flight in Philly a couple years ago and arrived on another plane, four hours later, in Boston. It was so late the little airline baggage room was locked and dark and I couldn't find anyone to ask where my luggage -- including my guitar -- was. Wondering from carousel to carousel, I eventually found my stuff in a heap next to a back wall. Luckily, everything was there -- but I had some nervous hours.

On the other hand, if there's too much time between connecting flights, your guitar may sit on the tarmac in the cold or heat (and possibly in the rain or snow, depending on how carefully they close the tent flaps on those baggage dollies).

So, even if you protect your guitar against damage, what do you do to protect it against loss, theft, exposure to the elements, or to the manhandling of the overworked airline security folks?

You can always buy a seat for your guitar. (Ha! Ha! Just kidding -- we know the kind of discretionary funds musicians have lying around!)

Something that's worked for me: if you carry your guitar in a gig bag, the airline will practically insist that you take it on board with you, since they know gig bags offer so little protection. (That's the disadvantage. But the advantage is you never let your guitar out of your sight.)

I use a Gator foam core jumbo guitar case, which is light and sturdy. (Technically I guess it's not a gig bag, but the cloth cover helps give that impression.)

I've used it on three tours and it's still going strong (though I did have to reglue the cloth cover in spots after the second tour). It has backpack straps, so I wear it like a backpack while I'm checking in. If airport personnel doesn't say anything about it, I don't bring it up.

If they do ask me about the guitar, I say the case is a gig bag, and that's been good enough.

Anyone out there got some good flying-with-guitars recommendations?

Or good horror stories?

Glenn//.
 

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Since I bought it new in 1974, my D-40 Guild has literally traveled the world (including several trips to Cape McMurdo, Antarctica) via airplanes and has never suffered any damage.

It's only protection is the hardshell case it came with and the only thing I did in packing it was to put tight fitting rags (undershirts) around the headstock and detune the strings about half way. I never lock the case but I always put an easy-to-remove belt through the handle and around the case in the event it pops open (this is also easy for the bag inspectors to remove and replace). These days, a velcro belt would probably be ideal.

Of course, Guilds are tough guitars from the gitgo!

Take the simple precautions I have, check your guitar, and relax.

6

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My experiences are much like 6L6's. Pack the guitar up with a bit of extra padding, detune the strings, do not lock the case as the security folks may force it open, check it then try and relax. I've never had a guitar damaged.

The United Breaks guitars video referenced in drednuts post is very funny. I believe United finally did the right thing and offered Dave Carroll some compensation for the damage.
 

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Gator cases has some new ATA approved cases out now. Anyone use one of them? They have the TSA approved locks on them so :lol: :lol: only security can open them. I was wondering if they were worth the expense or not.
 

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The last couple of years I have carried a variety of guitars onto Southwest Airline flights. Almost always in the "A" boarding group, so there's room in the overhead. I just act like I know what I'm doing and keep smiling at the boarding crew and no one has said a word.
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I have a beater DeArmond Hollowbody I spruced up a little with decent pickups and hardware, and check that in a regular guitar case for things that are one or two shows - used my buddy's Calton case for two, three, four week tours so I can take the vintage X175 - no way to break a Calton, unless you have very have machinery and you're trying very hard to break it.

A Calton case of my own is pretty high on my list of things to buy when I can afford them - anything else than a decent flight case is a gamble.
 

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In the "old days" when I worked for a research company and traveled a lot, I always took along a guitar to combat any potential for boredom. Before Homeland Security and all the fear of flying entered the picture, this was my pre-trip routine:
Loosen strings; wrap/stuff sufficient underwear around the head and a couple of t-shirts over/around the body; close the case and put a couple of wraps of duct tape around it to prevent 'accidental' opening.

Could never get away with that now. Those were the days my friends.....

Joe
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[ this was my pre-trip routine:
wrap/stuff sufficient underwear around the head and a couple of t-shirts over/around the body;
Could never get away with that now. Those were the days my friends.....

Joe
:D[/quote]

Right Joe,.. these days you may still have to remove your shoes for security, but they pretty well insist on appropriate dress. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Steffan
 

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Hey Jerry, you could probably substitute yellow tights for the underwear bit...save a little money, you know, make do with what you have...I'm sure everyone in Arlington will be looking forward to seeing you.... :wink: :lol: Steffan
 

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I'm hoping for the best (American Airlines say they will allow guitars as hand luggage) but planning for the worst. I'll be padding the guitar with lots of yellow dusters (not tights), and slacking the strings, plus putting a non locking luggage belt around the case to avoid accidental opening, so if it does get checked in as hold luggage it stands a better chance of surviving :roll:
 

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Jerry. look into getting one of the Tric cases if you can,...they only weigh a couple of lbs, and give fantastic protection...read about it in my post here. Regards, Steffan
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=15203
and I quote me. :lol:
'm gonna mention the Tric (foam) case again, by Godin. If you go to the factory tour, my luthier friend told me about this, they put in a high end guitar and throw it off the 2nd story roof. No damage, they then put it in the drying kiln, at about 140 degrees F. for a couple of hours while you do the tour. Then they take it out of the kiln, and there is less than a 2 degree change of temp from before it went in. For a hundred bucks, its cheap insurance, and my D25 snugs right in there. I haven't been in the factory tour but I saw a Godin sponsored show once and they took a high end guitar in that case, and threw it in a nice high and long arch, landed bounced 2 or 2 times, no damage, and still in tune, very impressive. by the way they only weigh 2.5 lbs...nice on the old back. :shock: :D Steffan
http://www.musiciansbuy.com/SEAGULL-gui ... -case.html
http://www.seagullguitars.com/fortepp.htm
http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/Forum ... 18238.html
Amazon has 3 Dread, size left for $99, with cover.http://www.amazon.com/Seagull-Deluxe-Dr ... B000PIF14C

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