Are there any "L-Style" Guild guitars? What model(s)?

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I was reading the new issue of Acoustic Guitar magazine and it is the "Blues Edition". I have always heard about "L-Style" guitars being great for blues, of course the Robert Johnson sitting with a Gibson L style guitar in his famous foto comes to mind immediately.

It got me to wondering does or did Guild ever make a "L-Style" guitar and if so what model would that be?
 

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MojoTooth said:
It got me to wondering does or did Guild ever make a "L-Style" guitar and if so what model would that be?
Great question. You got me wondering did they go into what the defining characteristics of an "L-style" were supposed to be? That would go a long way towards identifying a potential Guild counterpart. I'm aware of the L5 and the L7, I always thought they were simply exceptional archtops. In fact I'm wondering if they were called "L" for Lloyd L oar? A quick Wiki check shows that the L5 is definitely part of his legacy. He pioneered f-holes in archtops for example, and they mention something called a "Virzi tone producer", a spruce disc suspended from the top acting as a second sounboard. :shock: .
 

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MojoTooth said:
The L-Style "blues" guitars I was wondering about are flattops like this one...
http://cgi.ebay.com/1937-Gibson-HG-00-L ... 1787wt_934
now that you mention it I bet it is for Loar because there is one shown by a brand called "Loar" in this issue of Acoustic guitar.
Well by golly that makes me think of the M20's and F20's that have had a sudden spike in references here lately, although the bodys aren't quite as large in the lower bouts, proportionately. In fact there's athread here today about A25's from the '90's and now I wonder if they were actually intended to fill the slot of the classic M20's, even though they seem to have a poor reputation.
Loar was 'sposed to be the guy who took 'em (Gibson) away from the round soundholes though.
 

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adorshki said:
MojoTooth said:
The L-Style "blues" guitars I was wondering about are flattops like this one...
http://cgi.ebay.com/1937-Gibson-HG-00-L ... 1787wt_934
now that you mention it I bet it is for Loar because there is one shown by a brand called "Loar" in this issue of Acoustic guitar.
Well by golly that makes me think of the M20's and F20's that have had a sudden spike in references here lately, although the bodys aren't quite as large in the lower bouts, proportionately. In fact there's athread here today about A25's from the '90's and now I wonder if they were actually intended to fill the slot of the classic M20's, even though they seem to have a poor reputation.
Loar was 'sposed to be the guy who took 'em (Gibson) away from the round soundholes though.

I have been seeing M20's and F20's on EBay lately and thought they kind of resembles the older "L-Style" blues guitars but had never heard of any mention of them in that light. Will have to keep my eyes open for one. Theres one on ebay right now but I will have to research the model a bit more around here.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1976-Guild-F20-NT-O ... _720wt_934

The M20 looks a lot like an Lstyle to me.
 

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Ridgemont said:
Think of the f40 and f47 as big L shaped guitars. 8)
The F model Guilds aren't quite a jumbo are they? I have never had a chance to play one.
 

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MojoTooth said:
Ridgemont said:
Think of the f40 and f47 as big L shaped guitars. 8)
The F model Guilds aren't quite a jumbo are they? I have never had a chance to play one.

Nope. They have a 16" lower bout. OMs (F30) have a 15&1/4" and jumbos have a 17" lower bout. I have played all 3 (F40, F47R, and F47M) and they are quite nice. Haven't A/B ed the F30 and the F40 to hear a difference but I would guess the F40 has a fuller sound. With the lower bout as big as it is with the smaller upper bout, they look to have the same shape as the L shaped guitars, just much bigger. But if you are looking for a little parlor guitar for some couch country blues picking, then an F20 would be ideal.

I also read that L-shaped guitar review article, and I find them very appealing. I dig the Collings' specs. I bet the low profile 1&3/4" neck is just a joy to play. My GAD30 has a similar neck profile and it fits my hand perfectly.
 

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Ridgemont said:
MojoTooth said:
Ridgemont said:
I also read that L-shaped guitar review article, and I find them very appealing. I dig the Collings' specs. I bet the low profile 1&3/4" neck is just a joy to play. My GAD30 has a similar neck profile and it fits my hand perfectly.

Thanks for the info I will have to keep my eyes open for one around here so I can give it a spin.

Dude, the Collings just looked amazing and I know it sounds super. I was actually liking the Durango guitar also minus the busy headstock design. It seemed to have a good review for the price range.

Oh well, back to my drop D tuning and learining to play like Skip! :lol:
 

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Larrivee L-series is based on Jean Larrivee's personal preference, which is a basic Classical guitar shape.

As soon as you take a 12 fret Classical shape and pull the bouts in a bit around the neck to make it a 14 fret clear-of-the-body design, most companies wind up with something along the lines of a Martin 000 look. Other companies might call them "Concert" or "Auditorium" models.

Many companies make similiar patterns but call them by their own model designation.

Popular patterns begin to be known as "dreadnoughts," or "Jumbos," outside their original manufacturers, so in common parlance dreadnoughts begin to refer specifically to the familiar square-shourdered Martin D-shape, though originally Martin referred to their big Ditson size 12 fret models as dreadnaughts. They didn't get square-shouldered until they pulled the bouts back for 14 fret clear models.

Gibson J-45 were originally called Jumbos, before people began calling them round-shouldered dreads, and the 17" J-200's (based on L5 archtop rims, but with flat-tops) became Jumbos.

It's a confusing mess. :twisted:
 

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I think the closest Guild ever came to making a Gibson style jumbo were the GF series in the late 1980s. They have a slim waist, a slightly smaller upper bout, and a large rounded bottom bout (kind of like a J-200). This might be what you're looking for.
A lot of blues players like the old L series Gibsons because of the ladder bracing under the top (as opposed to X bracing). This produces a more aggressive and raw midrange sound. I don't think Guild ever produced a ladder braced guitar.
 
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