A '77 F50's Story

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We've all had visions at one time or another of saving a guitar even though common sense dictates otherwise.

The ad read "77 Guild F50 For Parts" and I called to make sure that it was still available. The man who answered said, yes it was and I made arrangements to look at it. Arriving at the address, I noticed that the small, '20s Bungalow was completely obscured by years neglect, as the foliage appeared to be winning the battle to reclaim the lot. You could tell that this had once been a very nice neighborhood in this part of Los Angeles.

A slightly built, older gentleman bearded with his gray hair tied back in a pony tail, answered the door on the second knock. I introduced myself mentioned I was here to see the guitar and He let me in. A badly damaged guitar case, the lower end crushed, was sitting on the dining room table and He opened and pulled out what had been at one time a very nice vintage F50.

I examined the damage and asked Him what happened. He said that his older brother who had just passed away, had purchased it, his first new guitar, from a local music store. A year later He was involved in a serious automobile accident having been rear ended on the freeway, totaling the car. The guitar, sadly, had been in the trunk stored in an inexpensive chipboard case. I asked about his brother and he didn't answer me directly, but I got the impression that He was severely injured.

The guitar seemed damaged beyond repair and maybe was only useful for parts. I made him an offer and He agreed; we shook hands, I paid him, and started packing the guitar into the case. As I walked out onto the porch, He asked me that if I did restore the guitar could I send him a photograph? He said His brother would have liked that. I drove home thinking about what to do with this guitar.

On arriving home, I took some photographs and started emailing luthiers about the feasibility of repairing it and just trying to get some idea of the expense and time involved. Almost all of them agreed that they could probably restore the structure of the guitar, but couldn't guarantee that aesthetically it could be brought back. Guild used the finest materials on these guitars.....ebony on the bridge and fretboard....gold plated Guild tuners, beautiful maple...... and this one looked as if it had not been played.

I left the guitar out on a sofa in the living room, to admire it throughout the day. Even damaged, it is still very attractive, and a maple F50 is on my short list of guitars in my future. I've played several, the one that Treem has for sale most recently ( a very nice playing guitar...) and there is just something about those Big Blondes.

As I was putting the guitar back in its case I checked the case storage compartment and to my surprise, sitting in an envelope was the Guild owner's manual for this very guitar as well as a period Guild Accessories Catalog along with a guitar strap and some picks.

I think I've given up the idea of trying to restore the guitar, but I'm going to request suggestions as to what to do with what remains. Two of the more interesting ideas have been to either strip off all of the usable pieces and have a vintage guitar equivalent of a Viking Funeral or maybe make a sculpture with the guitar.......partially cover the body with a ridged, canvas banner and a stern warning that you should under no circumstances ever lend your guitar to Pete Towneshend or it might suffer the same fate.

Email me or post your ideas. Lets see just how creative this group is.

David
 

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David,

Wow, that's a great story (sad, though it is), and this is exactly the kind of thing that really grabs my attention.

So, looking at the pictures, it appears that the neck/fretbd/crown are fine... The body is broken in multiple places, but the side damage looks like it could be patched. Not sure about the damage to the back at the bottom... The soundboard damage looks to be a replace not repair situation...

I know a luthier up here in Massachusetts who might be willing to take on a job like this, but it would be costly.

I think the question is what's it worth to you? I don't think you'd get your money back on resale if you put it in to fix it. A real conundrum. But the story behind this makes me want to see it fixed.
 

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I just thought you might want to contact Fender and consider having a re-build done at the repair facility (in Nashville). This would be costly and take a lot of time, but you'd get back a perfect guitar for probably less than the price of a new one. You might also want to wait until/if the New Hartford facility starts taking repair work (this is not planned currently, but it's potentially something that could happen).
 

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I have an F-50 from about the same time. At the very least, save the neck for use in another guitar, but I second the suggestion that you contact Fender about having it rebuilt at their repair shop.
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Brad Little said:
I have an F-50 from about the same time. At the very least, save the neck for use in another guitar, but I second the suggestion that you contact Fender about having it rebuilt at their repair shop.
Brad

Me three! There's certainly no harm in getting a quote (I don't think they charge for them); you're just out the cost of shipping. I guess you don't have to worry as much about damage in shipping either. 8)

My guitar'll come back from there eventually, and I expect it to be maybe better than new from everything I hear.
 

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Quite the story and a repository of memories, wishes, and dreams, that guitar is. There is a writeup on the quality of work done at the Blue Guitar. http://www.theblueguitar.com
They can repair and restore a pile of splinters. Read the San Diego reader link....Check out their link. They are in San Diego. Steffan
 

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Yeah, this sounds like an opportunity to put a smile on that old fellow's face, as well as a chance to bring the instrument back to life. Did anyone estimate the repair costs for you?

Perhaps one of us could take on that project, if you're not interested in doing so . . .
 

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The estimates to restore the guitar, so far, were much more than what it would cost to buy a nice, clean Westerly F50 of the same vintage. The ones who I did talk to could not or for that matter would not guarantee that the guitar would be visually restored or even more problematic, just wouldn't sound the same and you'd be left with a very, very expensive wall accessory. We're guitar players......She may be a Pretty Blond, but She's gotta be able to sing....so to speak...

I'm up for ideas. If nothing pans out, I'm sure that someone has a need and or desire for the original bits and pieces off of a '77 F50. The compensated bone saddle, bone nut, ebony bridge, the gold Guild tuners....even the binding and the wood......which I would let go at a reasonable price. If some one was thinking about restoring an F50,...D55, and wanted to do very correct restoration without having to resort to "new" reproductions....this might work for them.

I did follow up on Steffan's/Taabru45 (thanks!) suggestion and have contacted Blue Guitar in San Diego to get an estimate from them.

At this moment, the guitar is sitting on a guitar stand in the living room and even damaged and missing a large part of her top, still has a certain beauty, grace and elegance.

David
 

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What about donating it to a Lutherie school in exchange for a possible tax deduction...and a chance to play her if they succeed in putting her back together...maybe she can sing again. :wink:
 

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Pity you are not in the UK in the Gloucestershire, North Wiltshire area - the luthier I use is excellent and inexpensive - works from home. He totally rebuilt a vintage (1930s) Martin belonging to an very good blues guitarist I know that had gotten badly smashed (the guitar - not Andrew Bazley) in an accident on stage where something heavy fell on it during a gig :!:
 
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