We now play Yamahas

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Independent reviews are good for the consumer, thus, "Consumer Reports". Hans would be in the same category.

Exactly - and for all those who know - or want to know - independent Hans seems to be the one to trust.

As for new mixed names - how about Yamagu ? Does it sound too japanese and fades all US origin . . . 😂 Then other way round - Guiaha could be ancient US indian tribe w japanese twist 😏

As for Yamaha guitars - there is "the Doctor Who model" hanging at a music store here. I'm propably only one in this town who is interested. It's been there for a decade or two. But we still have one unfinished or uncertain deal w the shopowner - about 5 years ago I took home the guitar that I had designed and gave him a Guild D125 w hardshell case - and he's still thinking . . . .

My design

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And the Yamaha


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Does this mean we’ll finely get a Guild OM again ? 🤣😂
 

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This will no doubt mean the Guild factory will move from Oxnard as its history decrees it. So how about:
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This should be the sensible compromise from the normal East Coast/West Coast thing that has been going on for many years!
 

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I've been to Lebanon, KS! I passed through it on my way to a motorcycle rally in Nebraska. Not much there to speak of, really.
 

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Where is Yamaha's US location and do they have space big enough for Guild US?
 

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Where is Yamaha's US location and do they have space big enough for Guild US?
 

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New factory? Why move anything? Wouldn’t Cordoba’s production facilities be part of Yamaha’s acquisition? Must say, I do think Cordoba was well intended in the beginning, especially in moving all the equipment from NH, and working through numerous start-up delays. I think like so many before them, the low cost Pac-Rim option swayed them over with dancing dollar signs. Let’s hope Yamaha doesn’t just fall into line - fingers crossed!
 

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This will no doubt mean the Guild factory will move from Oxnard as its history decrees it. So how about:
Lebanon 2009 WBlog.jpg


This should be the sensible compromise from the normal East Coast/West Coast thing that has been going on for many years!

Since US is soooooo much larger than Finland - do you have many competing "Center of US" places ?

Even though our country is about 1,5XMinnesota - we have at least three competing places of "The Spot"

They are all within maybe 20 miles from each other. Calculated by East-West & North-South cordinates - or the gravity point of the map - including or excluding the sea area - etc etc - main purpose naturally is to lure the imaginary tourist to empty his/hers wallett at your shop . . .
 

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Where is Yamaha's US location and do they have space big enough for Guild US?
It is more a question if the CMG factory in Oxnard is big enough for what YGG plans!
YGG in 26580 Agoura Road in Calabasas has just an office location with more than 100 YGG people. But it is way closer to Oxnard than CMG in Santa Monica is. (35 minutes by car vs. 1:05h by car.)

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It is more a question if the CMG factory in Oxnard is big enough for what YGG plans!
YGG in 26580 Agoura Road in Calabasas has just an office location with more than 100 YGG people. But it is way closer to Oxnard than CMG in Santa Monica is. (35 minutes by car vs. 1:05h by car.)

Ralf
Looking forward to the next announcement Ralf...
 

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New factory? Why move anything? Wouldn’t Cordoba’s production facilities be part of Yamaha’s acquisition? Must say, I do think Cordoba was well intended in the beginning, especially in moving all the equipment from NH, and working through numerous start-up delays. I think like so many before them, the low cost Pac-Rim option swayed them over with dancing dollar signs. Let’s hope Yamaha doesn’t just fall into line - fingers crossed!
That occurred to me too. Given all the start-up hurdles, why not just keep it for what it was built for?

Seems it'd be cheaper than relocating production. For one thing, can Yamaha spray NCL in the US? Guild's already got the regulatory ok.
 

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That occurred to me too. Given all the start-up hurdles, why not just keep it for what it was built for?

Seems it'd be cheaper than relocating production. For one thing, can Yamaha spray NCL in the US? Guild's already got the regulatory ok.
Besides, I hear that arched back press is really heavy.
 

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Quite a surprise. I’m going to be optimistic here. I think this elevates Yamaha by acquiring the US manufacturing presence. It gives them an opportunity to cater to a higher end acoustic audience. It also gives them a solid MIA electric line overnight. Sure there is some overlap that may result in consolidation of the MIA acoustic lines. Overall I think it expands their capabilities in a net positive way.

Perhaps with Yamaha’s expertise, sense of brand and deeper pockets it will result in an expansion of the US line. In a couple years maybe we will see a return of favorite models that Cordoba has been unwilling or unable to bankroll. At a minimum maybe they will stop the complete nonsense around model names 😎

Of course they could do just the opposite and squash the US component and focus solely on the machine made MIA lines. But I’m hoping they want to play with the big boys and do it all. Fingers crossed.
I agree.
Yamaha has had an American presence for a long time; they purchased the small California company that makes the Pacifica series of solid-body electrics a long time ago.
They never messed with that company at all. It's still small, and is still making guitars.

But I think Guild holds far better commercial prospects than the Pacificas ever had as a premier American brand.

I tend to think Yamaha would move all of Guild's imports into their own house, but will leave the American guitars alone. The top range Guilds really fill a gap in their product line their best Japanese-made guitars just can't fill, so Yamaha will likely leave Guild alone and avoid messing around with the guitars.
Yamaha has always made some aggressive changes in the upper management of every company they acquire, and has often sent in some Japanese efficiency experts to improve the production procedures, but they haven't ever changed the most successful products; everything is done to make the production smoother and better. And more financially sound.

I think it's possible Yamaha could enlarge the Oxnard shop in a few years, and I'll be seeing a very aggressive advertising campaign come out for Guild that could include brand new dealership recruiting. But they will leave the guitars alone pretty much, and won't be retiring any model that is still selling in small quantities.

Yamaha is the only Japanese company that really understands American tastes and traditions. Of their many competitors, only Hoshino has tried to learn what America likes the most, and Hoshino is still more Japanese in their marketing than Yamaha is. Hoshino tends to drop a good guitar model before it reaches its highest sales potential, but Yamaha never does that.
Every change Yamaha makes is to improve their line by a notch or two up the scale.

Their products are so diversified and so well known here, and so large, that I think Guild will really flower under their management.

I wouldn't be surprised to find Guilds being offered in a Yamaha motorcycle shop though. Or in a music company that has always sold only pianos and organs.

I'm hoping to see some brand new older Yamaha-designs re-emerge as Guilds. Likewise, I hope to see some of Guild's best old designs return.
The Yamaha AEX1500 would be a great addition, built the Guild way while using Yamaha's electric components, and the Guild Nightbirds could reach their full sales potential in todays market with Yamaha's leadership.
 
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